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Dec. 4, 2024

Do Generational Curses Exist?

Do Generational Curses Exist?

What if the challenges you face aren't just personal but generational? Join me and my insightful guest, Richard Walsh, as we unravel the mysteries of generational curses and question their validity. Through our conversation, we delve into how family traumas manifest as perceived curses, passed down through learned behaviors, and the role of personal responsibility in breaking these patterns.

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Chapters

00:00 - Breaking Generational Curses

11:31 - Breaking Generational Curses Through Personal Responsibility

23:13 - Identifying and Breaking Generational Curses

29:51 - Understanding Generational Curses and Personal Responsibility

Transcript
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I had a great conversation with my friend, richard Walsh.

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If you aren't familiar with him, go back and listen to Season 3, episode 5, titled Finding Freedom in Business and Personal Life.

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He shared his testimony of how his first business crumbled before his very eyes and he had nowhere else to look but up to Christ.

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Now he has a thriving business helping entrepreneurs, love what they do and have their priorities right.

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On this episode, however, we get into a conversation not about business, but about generational curses.

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Are they real and, if so, how do we break them?

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Stay tuned to this episode for the answers.

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Be sure to share this episode with family and friends so they, too, can be blessed by the contents of this episode.

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Thank you, richard, for coming back on the show.

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I'm very excited to talk to you about today's topic, which is generational curses, or bloodline curses is sometimes a thing that they say too, so, without further ado, I would like you to tell us what you think about that, your position.

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Okay, I like this topic actually.

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Now, I am a pro-generational curses individual, but I think the caveat to it is I think there's a misunderstanding.

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Okay.

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Well, yeah, there's a misunderstanding, but there's a process of generational curses.

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I don't think people understand and I think not to cut in, but I do think maybe the deliverance ministry, a little bit, has took the concept and ran with it to try to make some money off of it, which I think is one of the reasons why there's so much misunderstanding about it, because after listening to some videos that I sent you, that I also listened to, I kind of get where they're coming with it and I do agree with some of it.

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But I think a lot of the ministries out there that are pushing for all that are just they're not right.

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So yeah, I'm not and I agree with you.

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I mean, is this not true in all areas?

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And the church, there's always people trying to prophetize something right, they'll take it, they'll twist it through.

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I mean, we see it everywhere, it's not?

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The funny thing is, let me ask you this, because so you have whoever Benny Hinn, whoever and they're doing their crazy stuff and whatever, and they're all that, but people still truly get healed, right.

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So in the beginning, years ago, I was like, okay, these guys are just, you know, they're just.

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I can't come up with the right word right now, proper word.

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Well, I think I know where you're going with that, because that's kind of how I am at the moment.

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I don't call myself well.

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I guess some people call themselves cessationists or continuationists.

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I'm a soft cessationist in the fact that I don't think people themselves have the abilities to heal.

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I think God can do whatever he wants through whoever he wants, however he wants.

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But people who say, oh, I have the gift of this or whatever, I don't believe that's correct for them to say anymore.

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And I think that's kind of where you're going with Benny Hinn.

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But it's hard to say without it sounding rude, you know, kooky or something.

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Yeah, I think the word I was going to use was charlatan rude you know kooky or something.

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Yeah, I think the word I was going to use was charlatan.

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Yes, I want to use that too.

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I agree, I listened to his nephew.

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I don't know if you know who Kosti Hinn is, but he's amazing and he's come out and talked about you know what it was like behind the scenes and he talks about the real gospel.

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His podcast is called For the Gospel.

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I love it.

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It's where I get a lot of my material, I suppose.

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But yeah, that's a rabbit trail we could go down.

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Yeah, for sure, but I think and you're right, I think anyone who's claiming the gift of healing okay, that's incorrect.

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It is God who's healing right.

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Anyone can heal someone because God is healing them Right.

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It's truly the faith of the individual being healed that is causing the healing, it's not the person laying hands up.

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That's the thing you know, and that's why and we don't know why some people get healed and some people don't get healed and all that stuff, right, yeah, so this is probably a whole other thing, but I think it's still part of, I think it's part of generational curses.

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I think it really is.

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It's an absolute part of generational curses from the standpoint that.

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So let's get.

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Let me I'll complete the thought process here on generational curses.

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So I believe in that.

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And there are generational.

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Okay, because you learn from your family.

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All of us, probably even the tiniest degree, we've been I'm air quoting traumatized by a family experience at one time or another, right?

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Whether it's that one time your dad lost his cool or whatever you know.

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So, kind of all.

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Been there, I got 60.

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My dad used to throw me in the pool, even though I didn't want him to.

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I hate swimming.

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Now I don't know if that's what you mean.

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but that's one of mine, it's one of my things.

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My wife, my wife, would let me thrash my children in the sandpit when they did wrong things, you know, with pushups and beds and thrusts and mountain climbers.

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So and I realized, well, yeah, I would, they would all hate fitness and how, they all love fitness.

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So, because I didn't do that, so I didn't equate punishment with that.

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But I think what happens is, whatever that is and some may have.

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I have trauma as a kid and growing up in the environment I did, and other people do, and whatever that might be, and it can get passed down because we repeat what we know.

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I always talk about where's cloth untaut when raising children.

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Well, that's just it.

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They see, you see what goes on.

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It doesn't matter what someone tells you.

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It's the seeing, is believing, right.

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So that becomes part of what you are, who you are.

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You see their actions.

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You duplicate those because that's our default.

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So when things are stressed or bad, you're going to go to what you saw and what you know, right, what you actually saw as a kid.

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That's the example.

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You don't know any different.

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So you have that Now.

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Is alcoholism, that Is drug addiction, that.

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Well, yeah, I don't know what the genetic?

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You know, the show is genetic, it's not genetic yeah, balsam's not genetic.

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Yeah, I agree in that sense, because I had a stint where I was drinking a lot and smoking was never something I wanted to do or whatever.

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But I did have a binge drinking not even a whole year because I had gotten alcohol poisoning and it was really bad.

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I was in bed for, I think, almost a week.

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I couldn't get out, couldn't even sit up without feeling dizzy and immediately needing to vomit.

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Sorry, tmi, but yeah.

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So it was enough for me to say I'm never drinking again, and I don't.

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I mean, I could barely have a sip.

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Now If I start feeling even the slightest bit of fuzzy, I start freaking out.

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I was like never again, I can't.

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So I don't even drink now.

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So genetically, yeah, I don't think it's a thing that people can say.

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I think that's just an excuse that people will give, because if you look at your family line, at some point someone wasn't drinking and then at some point someone was.

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So you got to look at the factors of that.

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I would say maybe even with divorce, like in my family.

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On my mom's side, divorce is a thing that's been going on for a few generations.

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Her mom was divorced several times, my mom's on her second marriage.

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On my dad's side, everyone stayed together except for my dad.

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He's on his third marriage.

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Just like me, I'm on my third marriage, but I think that's more of bad decisions we made product of our environment, the way.

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Like you were saying, there's certain curses, there's certain things that come through our bloodlines that we have experienced and we fall back on those in certain times of our lives.

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Right, and I think here's the problem, here's why it's, and I don't.

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You can give me your stance on this too.

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So when people I think, when they I think, when people say they don't believe in generational curses, it's because they don't believe the people who say they're generational curses that can't be broken.

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See, I think a lot of people have that.

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Well, I'm just doomed.

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It's a generational curse.

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But well, what curse can't be broken?

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Right, and that's where the power of the Lord comes in, right?

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All this stuff can be broken.

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We can also.

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You can even take it from a worldly standpoint.

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Like I grew up with, certain things happened in my family that I've vowed not to repeat in my family in my own with my kids and we did it.

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We're not what I grew up with.

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You know one of my brothers has issues.

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You know he couldn't break certain things because he didn't make a conscious effort to do it.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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But I also believe that, just like unforgiveness or forgiveness with someone who's died, right, you can't live with unforgiveness, right, we're told that and you can't do it.

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But you also just can't forgive someone who hasn't asked for forgiveness.

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But what if they die, like?

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My mother died at 58 and I didn't?

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She never asked forgiveness for all the stuff she did.

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So am I doomed?

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Yeah.

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Do I now have a generational curse of abuse?

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Do I have to live with unforgiveness for the rest of my life and be bitter and not respect women and the whole thing?

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Well, no, you have to finish the process of forgiveness, right?

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So, if someone doesn't like so, I walked these, I was teaching these kids and I walked them through this process and I like to share this because I think it's really, really important, and this ties into generational curses too.

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So you have someone who did something really bad to you.

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They haven't asked for forgiveness, they don't feel they need to forgive you, whatever the case, and or they've died and now you can't.

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They're never going to right.

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So how do you deal with that?

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Well, what I think everyone says, because you hear it from the pastoral podium you can't live without forgiveness, just forgive.

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You can't have forgiveness in your heart.

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We're like, okay, so people, so you've been abused by your, you're a woman who was abused and molested and everything else, by your parent, you know, by a father or whatever it is, or a brother, whatever all that, and you're supposed to just let that go.

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Like you think that works?

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Does that sound effective?

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Okay, so they go.

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Well, okay, I forgive them.

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They died.

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And then you feel good for like a moment.

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It's like a sugar hit, right.

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It's like you get that oh, that makes you the dope mean hits and that's good.

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But three weeks later, a month later, you're back to same old stuff.

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You're going back into what we'll call the generational curse.

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You're being this way.

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So here's the process.

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This is how you do it.

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I've done this for myself and it works and it's amazing.

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So if you've lost the ability to receive someone to ask you for forgiveness, like my mother, she died, so I go, oh, I have to take that unforgiveness and give it to the Lord.

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Like I said, lord, I can't do this.

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There's no way they can ask me Because, again, I'm sorry, I jumped around a little bit, but what I would ask these kids or ask anybody, is will God forgive you if you don't ask for forgiveness?

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Simple question, right?

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Yeah.

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And he won't Exactly Because he's a just God.

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Yeah.

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And he can't be anything but a just God.

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So if he can't do it, why should we?

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That's my question.

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I just ask then how can we?

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If God can't do it and we are Christ followers, then how can we, if God can't do it and we are Christ followers, you know, and our goal is to live like Christ, you know, to follow God.

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How can we do that?

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So you can't.

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What you have to do is you have to give this burden to the Lord and you say Lord again.

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The opportunity for this person to ask for forgiveness is not there, but I have this bitterness, I have this unforgiveness in my heart.

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I need you to take this because your burdens are light.

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I need to cast this on you and if the person's still alive, you say I will continue to pray for that person.

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That they do come ask, but for now I can't live with this.

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Can you take this from me, please?

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Take it from me and give it to the Lord Now.

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The Lord can deal with that.

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The Lord can do that work and we don't have to.

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And I'm telling you, when I learned that and did that because of my mother and other instances of my life people who are alive.

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I never in my life felt burden lifted off me.

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Out of all the crises I've been through right and all the hard things I've done, out of all the crazies I've been through right and all the hard things I've done.

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That changed everything.

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That lifted all that off and just like freedom, it was amazing.

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So I just want to correlate that with generational curses.

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You have to do the same thing Because a lot of times, obviously three generations ago, those people aren't living.

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They did it, they started it.

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Ask for that strength to change direction, to not repeat that.

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Ask for the eyes and ears to hear and see if you're going back that direction.

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That's how you break it and then your children see that you've put in this effort.

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They understand you are a different person.

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Still more is caught than taught.

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So now they're picking up the good things.

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They're not going to repeat what you had to go through right.

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They're going to have a different experience Again.

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They might have some little thing here or there, but from the generational standpoint, whether it's alcoholism, abuse, it's who knows what right.

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You can't eliminate that.

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So again, I think the people who think a generational curse is unbreakable, that's where people get.

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You know that's just a wrong trail, right.

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Yeah, that's a wrong conclusion.

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I think they see it as an excuse.

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You know I can't stop because my family's been doing this for so many years.

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They're not taking responsibility for their own decisions.

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I think that's what I don't like the most about.

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When people talk about generational curses is because I'm wondering well, what is your motive for talking about this?

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Are you wanting to just use it as your crutch as to why you can't or won't change?

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Are you taking responsibility for your part in it?

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Because if you were, then you wouldn't believe that it couldn't be broken.

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Because I'm going on almost 10 years right now, in 2024,.

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I'm going on almost 10 years right now, in 2024.

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I'll be married 10 years.

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That's the longest marriage I've had.

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Unfortunately, my two older kids had to deal with me going through a divorce going through two divorces in my oldest case.

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So I wasn't able to break that curse for them, specifically because my daughter's father also went through a second divorce.

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But that doesn't mean that my younger children won't get to experience what it's like to have their parents intact.

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My three youngest children will see all the hard work that my husband and I put in to staying together.

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My second oldest will be able to see it too, because he still lives with us.

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It's up to my oldest, when she wants to get right with God again, for her to make those decisions and figure out what she's going to do.

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And the reason why I have a hard time with people saying generational curses and just using it as some sort of excuse or not taking responsibility.

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Think of it in this sense.

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My brother isn't a believer.

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His wife is not a believer.

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They've been married for 13 plus years.

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How were they able to do it?

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And I wasn't able to.

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You know, you gotta, you gotta wonder about that too.

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So it's, it's not like it's in the genes.

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It's definitely not in the genes, otherwise I feel like he would be having the same genes as me.

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So I think that's my main hang up with the whole idea of generational curses is because a lot of people not you, of course, but a lot of people don't have the right mindset about it and they're using it as a crutch or they're using it as an excuse to continue going on and they're not taking responsibility for their part in whatever's going on.

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Your ancestors aren't forcing the alcohol down your throat.

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They're forcing the cigarette or the pot into your mouth.

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You're doing that.

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You're making the choices.

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You're hanging around those people that are doing those things as well.

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You're making the bad decision to look at pornography and ruining your marriage or whatever it is.

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You have to take your responsibility for it.

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You cannot just blame your parents.

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Yeah, I agree.

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I mean, everything comes down to personal responsibility accepting Christ.

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Did someone make you accept Christ?

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Yeah.

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You can't do that right.

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It's the same principle, so we do have to look at it that way.

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So yeah, I kind of figured we'd kind of get on the same page.

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Just because I think it's really important that people understand it's not all things are possible through Christ right, so that's breaking generational curses.

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So I really think people get hung up on you can't and you're doomed.

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And, like you said, and I actually think, if you're really dug deep I don't ever want to be a therapist, okay, but if I was and you're going to time you find out there's an enjoyment, there's an addiction to the curse People.

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It is easier to blame it.

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That's one thing.

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But there's also a part of it like you really haven't you got to do some self-examination Like what part of this do I actually like?

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Yeah, I mean.

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The Bible talks about how sin entices you.

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If it's not enticing to you, it's not going to be a trigger for you.

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If someone were to hand me a cigarette and say, oh hey, do you want some of this?

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I'm going to have an easy time saying no thanks and walking away.

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But if they say, hey, do you want a pizza?

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Even though it's like midnight and I'm trying to lose weight and I realized eating a pizza at midnight is probably not a good idea, I'm not going to.

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You know that's going to be a little harder because I love pizza and I'm hungry and I know what's going to come with that and you know pizza.

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It's a pizza curse.

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Yeah, it's a pizza, curse Well.

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I just tell people, ana, I just tell people listen.

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The entire Roman army lived on pizza, bread, sauce, little cheese, so if it's good enough for them.

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It took over the whole world, so I'm going to eat pizza whenever I want it's part of being a warrior.

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I have eaten it cold for breakfast.

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I've eaten it at whatever time.

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I think I've eaten it late, but usually I'm asleep by midnight.

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Cold pizza in the morning has reached delicacy position, so it's important.

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It's pretty good.

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Like I tell people, there's no bad pizza, there's only better pizza.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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So, pardon me, yeah, it's.

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I think I think when we look at generational curses and I think this kind of ties into healing Okay, Because I think you can be healed from it too you still need that strength.

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You need someone you know, a faith-filled individual, to speak that into your life.

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So if you're suffering from that, I don't think someone just walks up and say you have a generational curse though.

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I've seen this happen and people realize it and then they see them delivered from it, right, and it's amazing.

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Now do I check in three years later to see if they still haven't, you know, if they've been truly healed?

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No, I haven't done that.

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But I also think if you're having, say, your pastor's having a sermon on generational curses and he walks through these stages and just like we're doing here, right, you have this, this, this you start out there and you go, oh, it is up to me, this is, and you start to get that Starts out there and you go, oh, it is up to me, this is, and you start to get that, and then there's an altar call and they're laying hands on people for it and stuff.

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That's the final that's.

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You know, that's really just calling the power of the Holy Spirit to work on this individual and give them additional strength, right.

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So their faith has been strengthened because they have an understanding right, and then that can work.

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You know, it's not that that's a deep process.

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I'm just saying that the thing about that is the person now understands they're not cursed forever with this, they can let this go.

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That's deliverance in general.

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Yeah.

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You know it's something else.

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Let's say we had one.

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When was it?

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Oh, it was Sunday morning.

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Well, yeah, yeah, yesterday, yesterday morning.

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So we had Annie James there we're doing all this stuff, and a woman is, you know, she falls in spirit and your hands are straight up and they're shaking and everything else.

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And a friend of mine, his wife.

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You know they were in our church no-transcript, you know they thought it was a medical issue.

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No, she'll work this out and stuff, you know.

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So you see this kind of stuff and it's not, you know, it's not flamboyant, it's none of that.

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It's like you see this and they get out and you talk to them after.

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It's amazing what's transpired in this stuff and it takes some if you haven't been around.

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People have been delivered and see demons cast out and things like that.

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That.

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That can be a little rough to watch, I mean, but it's real.

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You know that kind of stuff is very real.

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I mean the demons from Christ's time.

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He's casting out demons, right?

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Well, they're not dead, they're still here.

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It's the same, it's the same fist, a different glove.

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Yeah, right.

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So this stuff, so why would that be a generational thing?

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You know they could be in and out on stuff like that too, so I know it can get convoluted and complicated, but yeah, that's definitely something I'll be talking about on the podcast too, because the whole deliverance ministry doesn't sit well with me and there's many reasons why.

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But I think it goes back to when people don't truly understand the definition of what deliverance means and who it's actually for, same with generational curses.

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People just throw these buzzwords around and they don't fully understand what they mean.

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They do it in the political sphere, they do it in the Christian sphere.

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Everyone has a buzzword they throw around.

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But if you were to ask them, hey, what does that mean?

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Nine times out of 10, they're probably like oh, I don't know, I just use it, I grew up using it or something.

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So I definitely have some issues with the deliverance ministry itself, but I also grew up in the type of church where those weren't things that I was used to seeing anyway.

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So that's one of the main reasons why I'm not shutting it down completely, but I'm using a lot of discernment to see what is actually of God and what is not of God, because it's not something I grew up being around.

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So it's not easy for me.

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Like you said, it might be difficult for some people to see.

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It would be very difficult for me to see, and I've been in a church like that, that was very flamboyant and and everything, and I just had to.

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You know, I was like I can't.

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This is crazy.

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I got to get out of here.

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Right, I think that's right.

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The deliverance aspect too.

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The thing is there is actually a process to that.

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There's actually stuff you have to let's call it a questionnaire.

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You got to write all this stuff out.

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You have to examine your past, your history, to understand what could be there, and this could tie the generational curses as well.

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So the people who are serious I'm calling them serious, not the truly not-for-profit deliverance ministries, okay truly want to see people delivered.

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They have a process.

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It doesn't just come up and poof.

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I mean, there's a process you go through and that kind of stuff I appreciate, because that's the work.

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Right.

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You have to figure it out because there's things in us that we have, whatever our PTSD is or whatever the way we react to certain things.

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A lot of times we don't know why.

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It took me a lot of time to figure out little triggers.

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That's another buzzword for you little triggers that set me up and I'm like.

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But then I start once I know the buzzword for you little triggers that set me up and I'm like.

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But then I start once I start realizing I started noticing them right, so now I know when people do things I can have greater control of my former reactions right to stuff like that.

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Now I just like I can like yeah, that's not the thing to do to me, because bad things will happen to you, okay yeah, I'm just.

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I'm the same way.

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I I have major anger issues and can blow up easily, and I used to stuff it all down and not talk about it and then just blow up on some random, poor, innocent person who had nothing to do with anything.

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And I've gotten more open with talking about what my problems are.

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Maybe sometimes I'll try to stew, but I can't stew for too long before I tell somebody.

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So I've learned my triggers.

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Some of the stuff my kids do irritates me and I just have to take a moment.

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The other day I got overwhelmed and I told my kids you're going to make mama lose her mind.

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I need you guys to leave me alone for like a second.

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Just let me have some time.

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I mean, if they're all trying to talk to me at once and I'm in the middle of doing something, it just gives me anxiety and then I want to snap and I can't snap because I'm trying to be better.

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So knowing your triggers, knowing what sets you off, is one of the major ways to stop a generational curse.

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Totally agree Because, again, I just was reacting all the time to it, you know, then finally realized, oh, that little thing, that okay, I'm not a small guy, Okay, I train, I'm well-skilled in close quarter combat, martial arts, boxing, the whole thing.

00:25:46.807 --> 00:25:55.980
And there's little that I'm not even going to share, because someone will come try to be smart and do it to me.

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They said it'll be a bad day for them.

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But my wife can do that to me, you know, because she figured it out, and it's just, I will like freeze, like I won't, I just have to just breathe, and like you can't do that to me.

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Yeah.

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As simple as it is.

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But I learned now.

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So now I just let her know and then it took a while for her not to do it Because she didn't believe me.

00:26:21.096 --> 00:26:27.327
Yeah Right, they all, I'm sure, because I'm who I am and you'll know it's a kryptonite thing.

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You know, people get it, I'm like, and, as a woman, you can do that to me because there's going to be no retaliation.

00:26:32.632 --> 00:26:32.992
Yeah.

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Well, you learned that, but if a dude did it to me, he's going to wake up on Tuesday.

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All bets are off.

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Okay, he's going to wake up next Tuesday, okay, but so I just and I get it.

00:26:43.981 --> 00:26:45.104
That's really helped me too, though.

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Once you identify, it is really important, but we'll go back to the spiritual aspect of that too.

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Identifying is great, but now take that to the Lord, give that to him, help me in this, help me resist this, take it from me completely.

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That'd be really good too.

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If we could just have another effect.

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That'd be awesome too, you know so.

00:27:05.063 --> 00:27:12.778
So I just think it's all the awareness of it and then how we approach it with the Lord.

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We have to lean on the Lord, we have to give it to Him.

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These things can be broken and we can move forward.

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And then it's amazing when it happens.

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Like I said, I have family comparisons I can make, and who did it and who didn't do it.

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Yeah.

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So I'm like well, if it's a generational curse, why am I not?

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How am I no longer cursed?

00:27:30.807 --> 00:27:34.412
Yeah, that's like what I was saying with my brother and I, yeah, exactly.

00:27:34.714 --> 00:27:35.175
Exactly so.

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We've both seen that you know, so I don't know.

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Maybe we're blessed with logic.

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I don't know, maybe.

00:27:42.894 --> 00:27:48.122
Maybe we're just seeing these things because it makes sense, but I still think there's always that spiritual component.

00:27:48.122 --> 00:27:51.446
But God created us right?

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We're in his image, we have this ability to see this and know this and that power's in us through him, and I think we understand that connection.

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These things can be broken forever because he wants to bless us for thousands of generations.

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God doesn't want anything bad for us.

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He doesn't give us illness, he doesn't make us sick, he doesn't give us cancer.

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He can't give us something he doesn't have, right.

00:28:15.305 --> 00:28:17.522
So I was mentioning Eddie James.

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We had this guy at the church yesterday and he's preaching and said something amazing.

00:28:21.375 --> 00:28:26.459
So he's talking about something very similar to this and I'm just going to give the takeaway he gave me he goes.

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So I've never seen a garden full of weeds that weeds itself.

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It can't pull out its own weed, right?

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It's something you have to go and do?

00:28:35.306 --> 00:28:37.807
You have to go and remove weeds.

00:28:37.807 --> 00:28:47.277
So if you have weeds in your garden, which is generational, curses, ptsd, you know, whatever it is, those are things you have to remove them.

00:28:47.277 --> 00:28:48.137
It goes back to personal responsibility.

00:28:48.157 --> 00:28:49.739
Yeah, you know, someone has to take those out.

00:28:49.739 --> 00:28:51.101
They're not going to remove themselves.

00:28:51.101 --> 00:28:54.825
Yeah, weeds don't remove themselves, yeah, right.

00:28:54.825 --> 00:28:59.009
So it's very important to understand like there's work and now that was part of a curse.

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Weeds are part of a curse.

00:29:00.451 --> 00:29:01.652
Mm-hmm.

00:29:02.275 --> 00:29:03.037
Right From the beginning.

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Oh, adam was never pulling weeds from the garden.

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He was just tending the garden right, pruning, collecting fruit, doing all the fun stuff, enjoying the beauty of it.

00:29:14.057 --> 00:29:18.226
But then comes the weeds, right Now it's thistles, it's thorns.

00:29:18.226 --> 00:29:22.141
It's hard work, the ground may not even give to you right.

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So we have to understand that in a fallen world, these are the things we, these are of Satan.

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You know, this is the evil one.

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This stuff is on us because of.

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We live in this, you know, fallen world.

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This is a fallen world.

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Our hearts are wicked, we have all this stuff.

00:29:36.685 --> 00:29:41.945
So you start stacking all of that and you realize, oh okay, we have control.

00:29:41.945 --> 00:29:46.724
We have control to accept it or reject it, like we're saying from the beginning.

00:29:46.724 --> 00:29:50.986
So it's just combining the Lord to be in that help, I think, is what's so critical.

00:29:51.734 --> 00:30:16.031
Yeah, yeah, I agree, you're making some good points and my angst towards the generational curse stuff is not as severe as it was, because when you actually take a step back from your own position and how strongly you feel about something, you can listen to someone else and glean from them, discern what's right and wrong within it.

00:30:16.031 --> 00:30:19.243
That's the point of a conversation.

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We should be wanting to discuss things with people in a nice calm way, not argue with each other, try to throw logic at someone.

00:30:28.250 --> 00:30:29.196
I'm smarter than you.

00:30:29.196 --> 00:30:29.798
I know this.

00:30:29.798 --> 00:30:36.981
I know that, as believers, we are supposed to be able to call out when someone's doing something wrong.

00:30:36.981 --> 00:30:41.880
We're supposed to shepherd, we're supposed to disciple, we're supposed to share.

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This doesn't seem right.

00:30:43.803 --> 00:30:49.939
Maybe there's something off about it, because we don't want to see people led down the wrong path.

00:30:49.939 --> 00:30:58.488
There's the narrow path and then there's the big, wide one, where a lot of people are going to go because they think they're on the narrow and they're not.

00:30:58.488 --> 00:31:22.318
So, as believers, we're supposed to be sharing the truth, the absolute truth, and I thank you so much sharing the truth, the absolute truth, and I thank you so much, richard, for coming on helping me to fully understand the idea of generational curses in a way where I actually agree with you and I do believe that there are some things that are generational and they can once and for all be gone.

00:31:22.318 --> 00:31:36.486
It's just going to take some effort from you and from admitting that you have those problems, not just blaming someone else, not doing what a lot of counselors like to do, which is say, oh well, your parents, it's not your parents' life anymore.

00:31:36.486 --> 00:31:45.405
Once you hit a certain age, you have to take responsibility for your own life and the choices you make, whether it had something to do with something from your past.

00:31:46.256 --> 00:31:46.758
Yeah, I think.

00:31:46.758 --> 00:31:48.785
One last thing on that that's really important.

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So I went through like two years of hypnotherapy.

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I didn't know a lot of the things that my mother had done to me because you, you know, you repress those things right.

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In your mind, the unconscious mind, is amazing.

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Like we have like 50,000 thoughts an hour or something, and you don't imagine if all those came out at once.

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So I had to discover that because that stuff's still inside you and if it wasn't and I'm talking three days a week, I went three days a week I dropped some money to get fixed, if you will.

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And this is like pre being a believer.

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But if it wasn't for that and realizing all that stuff that went on, that I had repressed, I could never have gotten married.

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I didn't have the respect for women I had the whole thing.

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I didn't know why and that stuff brought it out, so at least I knew it.

00:32:35.583 --> 00:32:48.002
So that was a very secular thing, if you will right, but it began the process, so at least the awareness could happen, because if it's back there and it's not out and you're just doing things you have to find out.

00:32:48.002 --> 00:32:54.631
You don't have to find out why, but you could also ask the Lord to reveal that to you too in prayer and listening to prayer and doing that kind of stuff.

00:32:57.515 --> 00:32:58.457
So just there's a lot to it.

00:32:58.457 --> 00:32:59.219
Obviously.

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It's definitely a changeable thing.

00:33:01.865 --> 00:33:02.866
Yeah, I agree.

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Well, thank you so much, Richard, for coming on today.

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This was really fun and exciting to talk to you about this subject.

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Thank you, I love it, appreciate being here.
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Richard Walsh CEO Sharpen the Spear Coaching - Honing entrepreneurial warriors on the battlefield of business

After 20 years in business and at the top of my game '08/09 hit and I lost everything, including our home. At this same time I had a wife and six children under the age of four. As a Marine, champion boxer and black belt I'm not a fan of losing, so I had to do the hard work of determining why I failed so catastrophically. I connected all the dots (and there were a lot of them) and started to rebuild and regain success. At this same time other entrepreneurs were watching and asking me how I did it. Next thing you know I'm helping them create their business to not only withstand hardship but begin to thrive and create a life with balance in the five most important areas of life - Faith, Family, Finances, Fitness and Friendships. I even wrote a best selling book called Escape the Owner Prison where I detailed my story and how they can escape themselves. I learned that if I could help business owners understand the power that business ownership has, that it will not only balance their life but it can do the same for those under their employment. That in turn transfers to their families which then influences the communities they live in. Now, do this with 10,000 Small businesses and we have the opportunity to alter the lives of millions of people for the better. We can do business in a new way and truly be valuable and inspiring leaders for those around us. This isn't pipe dreaming. I have created the programs and coaching to bring all of this to life and we're doing it one business at a time on our way to helping 10k businesses. I love sharing my fa… Read More

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